Tournament Time: 24-Ticket vs 8-Ticket

//Tournament Time: 24-Ticket vs 8-Ticket

Tournament Time: 24-Ticket vs 8-Ticket

Introduction

Which type of Tournament is best to enter in terms of average cost/rewards? I got to thinking which is better myself, in terms of Standard Tournaments (excluding Theme and 4-Tickets, which are only for Theme as they depend too much on luck.)

(Simple) Math and Analysis Ahead!

Which Tournament Gives More Rewards?

In terms of rewards, I believe the 24-Ticket tournament’s rewards are only better if you finish 1st.

I’m assuming that tickets are the limiting factor, and that you have about ~24 tickets over a course of a week to spend. Of course in terms of time it takes the same to play either tournament, but assuming the typical PTCGO player has enough time to play either 1 or 3 tournaments a week, I’d like to show which should yield the best rewards regardless of time spent.

If you finish 2nd, 3rd/4th in the 24-Ticket Tournament, and can finish consistently 2nd, 3rd/4th in 3 of the 8-Ticket tournaments, you’ll end up with better rewards in exchange for the same 24 tickets.

24-Ticket

  • 1st: STS Booster x12, Random Booster x8, Spins x3
  • 2nd: STS Booster x8, Random Booster x4, Spins x3
  • 3rd/4th: Random Booster x4, Spins x2
  • 5-8th: Uncommon Chest x4, Tokens x200, Spins x1

8-Ticket

  • 1st: STS Booster x3, Random Booster x3, Spins x3
  • 2nd: STS Booster x2, Random Booster x2, Spins x3
  • 3rd/4th: STS Booster x1, Random Booster x1, Spins x2
  • 5-8th: Uncommon Chest, Tokens x50, Spins x1

4-Ticket (Theme Only)

  • 1st: STS Booster x2, Random Booster x1, Spins x3
  • 2nd: STS Booster x1, Random Booster x1, Spins x3
  • 3rd/4th: Random Booster x1, Spins x2
  • 5-8th: Uncommon Chest, Spins x1

4-Ticket x2

  • 1st: STS Booster x4, Random Booster x2, Spins x6
  • 2nd: STS Booster x2, Random Booster x2, Spins x6
  • 3rd/4th: Random Booster x2, Spins x4
  • 5-8th: Uncommon Chest, Spins x2

It should be obvious that for 24 tickets, you can either enter the 24-Ticket tournament once, or the 8-Ticket tournament three times.

If you’re confident about how you can place (consistently 1st, 2nd, and so on), we can come up with expected results. Most people, however, cannot consistently place first 😀 We can simply multiply the rewards of the 8-Ticket tournament by 3 to come up with what you’d likely get if you place consistently across 3 of those tournaments.

A comparison of the 2 ways to spend your tickets:

24-Ticket

  • 1st: STS Booster x12, Random Booster x8, Spins x3
  • 2nd: STS Booster x8, Random Booster x4, Spins x3
  • 3rd/4th: Random Booster x4, Spins x2
  • 5-8th: Uncommon Chest x4, Tokens x200, Spins x1

8-Ticket x3 (where each time you place consistently)

  • 1st: STS Booster x9, Random Booster x9, Spins x9
  • 2nd: STS Booster x6, Random Booster x6, Spins x9
  • 3rd/4th: STS Booster x3, Random Booster x3, Spins x6
  • 5-8th: Uncommon Chest x3, Tokens x150, Spins x3

Tournament Spin Wheel

Each time you complete a round in any tournament, win or lose, you’ll get to Spin the Tournament Wheel. Unlike the Victor’s Wheel in Versus, no “wedge” (1/10th of the wheel), will ever already be claimed, so you have an equal 1-10th chance to land on any of the 10 prizes. 4 of the wedges are 25 Tokens, 4 are 1 Ticket, and 2 are Mystery Box Prizes.

If you play in the 8-Ticket tournaments, you’ll have 3 times the spins for the same place in the 24-Ticket tournaments. (4-Ticket tournaments, Theme Only, are of course 2x the 8-Ticket, 6x the 24-Ticket.) These are your rewards for each Spin:

  • 40%: 25 Tokens
  • 40%: 1 Ticket
  • 20%: 1 Mystery Box Prize

Note: the Mystery Box prize can be one of {(25t, 39%), (50t, 15%), (100t, 5%), (375t, 3%), (1T,26%), (2T, 7%), (4T, <1%), (RBP, 5%)} where the each element in the set is a double/ordered-pair of the potential prize in t = tokens, T = Tickets, and RBP = Random Booster Pack where the second element of the double is its approximate odds taken from the Mystery Box Prize data

Remember on the Victory Wheel for Versus, where you can only claim up to 10 MBPs per day, with an average of 29 spins to claim all 10 with the odds steadily decreasing ~10% each spin, but on the Tournament Wheel you’ll *always* have a 20% to land on a MBP.

For each additional spin you’ll get +25t, +1T, (1 or the other, or more if a MBP valued at +50t, +100t, +375t, +2T, +4T, RBP).

For n additional spins, you’ll get at least (25t * n, 1T * n, or a combination of).

Tournament Rewards Breakdown

Finishing 1st Place

The one exception to the 8-Ticket tournament being better is if you can consistently finish 1st. For the 24-Ticket tourney, you’ll get 20 Boosters, (12 STS, 8 RBP) and 3 Spins. For the 8-Ticket x3 you’ll get 18 Boosters (9 STS, 9 RBP) and 9 Spins. While some may consider that the additional 6 Spins (amounts to an additional +150t, +6T, a combination of, or more) might make them about equal, you’re more likely to finish *not-first* if you play 8-Ticket x3 compared to 24-Ticket.

Yes, the competition may be harder on the 24-Ticket, giving the 8-Ticket x3 better odds, and we’re assuming you can place consistently, but one of those times you might just place 2nd.

Finishing 2nd Place

It should be clear that for 2nd place, a total of the same amount of boosters, 12, is being rewarded, albeit a different mix of +-2 Random Boosters, but with 6 more spins.

Some may argue that 8 Steam Siege Boosters and 4 Random Boosters > 6 Steam Siege Boosters and 6 Random Boosters; however, you also net 7 more Spins (which amounts to a range of +175 tokens -> + 7 Tickets, a combination of, or more), throwing the weight over to the 8-Ticket x3 category.

You also might place 1st on one of those 8-Ticket x3, assuming you can consistently place 2nd, definitely throwing the weight over to the 8-Ticket x3 category (yielding 14 boosters: 7 STS, 7 RBP, and 9 Spins, 6 more Spins than 24-Ticket worth +150t, +6T, a combination of, or more).

If you manage to spread your placings to a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd/4th, on the 8-Ticket x3, you’ll still net 12 boosters (6 STS, 6 RBP), and 8 spins, still 5 more Spins than the 24-Ticket (worth +125t, +5T, a combination of, or more).

Finishing 3rd/4th Place

For 3rd/4th place, a total of 6 boosters for the 8-Ticket x3, (3 STS, 3 RBP) as well as 6 Spins, compared to only 4 RBP and 2 Spins with for the 24-Ticket tourney.

Finishing 5-8th Place

For 5-8th place in the 8-Ticket x3, you’ll net -1 Uncommon Chest, -50t, but +2 Spins. Those 2 Spins will amount to (+50t, +2 Tickets, a combination of, or more (could be 1-2 more MBPs)), which at the very least could yield the same amount of tokens, 1 more ticket/MBP/more tokens, but 1 less Uncommon chest.

Arguably, if you finish last in the 24-Ticket tournament, you also have much better odds to finish *not-last* in at least one of the 8-Ticket x3 tournaments, thereby dramatically increasing your net rewards. Therefore I consider placing 5-8th in the 8-Ticket x3 to be better than placing 5-8th in the 24-Ticket category.

In brief…

Which is better? Placing nth in 24-Ticket or 8-Ticket x3?

  • 1st: 24-Ticket
  • 2nd: 8-Ticket
  • 3rd/4th: 8-Ticket
  • 5-8th: 8-Ticket

Better than 24-Ticket Rankings

  • 2nd: 1st, 2nd, and 3rd/4th or higher, 1st x2 and 5-8th or higher
  • 3rd/4th: finishing 3rd/4th or higher at least once. (including 3rd/4th and 5-8th x2)
  • 5-8th: finishing 3rd/4th or higher at least once. (including 3rd/4th and 5-8th x2)

I believe that that unless you can consistently get 1st place, it’s better to spend your tickets on the 8-Ticket tournaments, as overall you’ll reap better rewards.

Also, if you place a higher-than-average value on Tokens, Tickets, and Mystery Box Prizes than just unlocked Booster Packs, it’s always better to play in 8-Ticket tournaments.

What do you Think?

Would you rather spend your tickets fast on a 24-Ticket Tournament for a big reward, or spend them slower on 8-Ticket Tournaments?

Does spinning the Tournament Wheel matter much to you?

Drop a comment below!

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